# Delinquent list questions and direct mail **URL:** \ **Category:** Buying Strategies\ **Created:** [December 5, 2024, 1:44am UTC](https://forum.retipster.com/t/delinquent-list-questions-and-direct-mail/8534 "2024-12-05T01:44:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Rob\_G](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f0a364/32.png) [@Rob\_G](https://forum.retipster.com/u/Rob_G)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2024, 1:44am UTC](https://forum.retipster.com/t/delinquent-list-questions-and-direct-mail/8534/1 "2024-12-05T01:44:06Z")
Hey guys do you think when doing direct mail, I can still be successful with it without the delinquent list like just pulling a list from a data source if I send enough mail? ---
**Author:** ![ArizonaNative](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/57b2e6/32.png) [@ArizonaNative](https://forum.retipster.com/u/ArizonaNative)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2024, 5:22am UTC](https://forum.retipster.com/t/delinquent-list-questions-and-direct-mail/8534/2 "2024-12-05T05:22:47Z")
Robert - RE Tipster Seth has a good video (probably more than one) about using tax delinquent lists for our mailouts. I learned a lot from it. ---
**Author:** ![Rob\_G](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f0a364/32.png) [@Rob\_G](https://forum.retipster.com/u/Rob_G)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 2:55am UTC](https://forum.retipster.com/t/delinquent-list-questions-and-direct-mail/8534/3 "2024-12-13T02:55:47Z")
Thanks, Sharon always helpful ---
**Author:** ![karljames](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forum.retipster.com/karljames/32/2524_2.png) [@karljames](https://forum.retipster.com/u/karljames)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 4:59am UTC](https://forum.retipster.com/t/delinquent-list-questions-and-direct-mail/8534/4 "2024-12-16T04:59:25Z")
Hello Robert, There are lierally hundreds of us out here using lists pulled from places Seth has reviewed and has blog posts about on REtipster such as DataTree, Prycd, etc. So, the answer to your questions is YES. The idea behind the delinquent tax list was those folks are thought to be motivated sellers - there must be some reason why they are delinquent such as don’t want the property anymore, can’t afford the taxes, inherited it etc. What the land “investing” community has largely shifted to is just mailing the larger population of all land owners - not just tax delinquent ones - in hopes that they, too,might be interested in selling their land and happen to have your letter arrive at just the right time (along with obout 17 other lettes that week). I am of the opinion the land owner community has gotten a lot more concious (over the last 10 years) of the value of their land and not willing to let it go for pennies on the dollar any more. I believe there are benefits of both approaches - shotgun and rifle. I suggest choosing one and being consistent with it for a good while. ---
**Author:** ![Rob\_G](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f0a364/32.png) [@Rob\_G](https://forum.retipster.com/u/Rob_G)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 12:23pm UTC](https://forum.retipster.com/t/delinquent-list-questions-and-direct-mail/8534/5 "2024-12-16T12:23:48Z")
Thanks so much Karl very well spoken with that response 🤝 ---
**Author:** ![ArizonaNative](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/57b2e6/32.png) [@ArizonaNative](https://forum.retipster.com/u/ArizonaNative)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 8:17pm UTC](https://forum.retipster.com/t/delinquent-list-questions-and-direct-mail/8534/6 "2024-12-16T20:17:37Z")
Robert, With the high cost of mailouts, I am focusing on using tax delinquent lists. I was able to buy a list for an Arizona county from Mike Alder. It was a county that didn’t offer their list publicly. I paid a fair price to Mike and he promptly emailed me the list with the specifications I was looking for. It was in an Excel format so I could organize the list for my purposes. Mike Alder’s youtube channel is shown below; there are many ways to contact him. ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/uploads/retipster/original/2X/f/fb2e827a4cc90ad537ea57bd326f71a58cbfd3d0.png) ---
**Author:** ![Rob\_G](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f0a364/32.png) [@Rob\_G](https://forum.retipster.com/u/Rob_G)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 9:05pm UTC](https://forum.retipster.com/t/delinquent-list-questions-and-direct-mail/8534/7 "2024-12-16T21:05:36Z")
Wow that’s amazing Sharon you think he has access to any county? ---
**Author:** ![ArizonaNative](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/57b2e6/32.png) [@ArizonaNative](https://forum.retipster.com/u/ArizonaNative)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 9:41pm UTC](https://forum.retipster.com/t/delinquent-list-questions-and-direct-mail/8534/8 "2024-12-16T21:41:17Z")
Robert - Somehow Mike Alder has access to tax delinquent lists that I couldn’t locate by contacting the Arizona counties directly. He works nationwide, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Rob\_G](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f0a364/32.png) [@Rob\_G](https://forum.retipster.com/u/Rob_G)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 9:57pm UTC](https://forum.retipster.com/t/delinquent-list-questions-and-direct-mail/8534/9 "2024-12-16T21:57:25Z")
What’s his best contact information? ---
**Author:** ![ArizonaNative](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/57b2e6/32.png) [@ArizonaNative](https://forum.retipster.com/u/ArizonaNative)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 10:53pm UTC](https://forum.retipster.com/t/delinquent-list-questions-and-direct-mail/8534/10 "2024-12-16T22:53:19Z")
[michaelalder34@gmail.com](mailto:michaelalder34@gmail.com)…I contacted him back in August. ---
**Author:** ![Rob\_G](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f0a364/32.png) [@Rob\_G](https://forum.retipster.com/u/Rob_G)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 12:26am UTC](https://forum.retipster.com/t/delinquent-list-questions-and-direct-mail/8534/11 "2024-12-17T00:26:57Z")
Thanks so much again Sharon😊