Has anyone used TaxLates (Tax Delinquent Leads & Tax Lien Property Lists for Real Estate Investors) for tax delinquent or tax lein lists for vacant land? If so, what was your experience in dealing with them and were you satisfied with their service and the quality of their list? Thanks!
@retipsterseth TaxLates.Com sent me the following email so based on your experience I would like to get your thoughts on this if at all possible. Thanks a lot and have a great day!!
Since these specific counties have not been requested over the past few years, we currently do not have them in our database.
However, we can certainly assist you in obtaining this data. For $500 per county, weâll work on gathering and processing the information for each county in your list. This pricing reflects the labor-intensive nature of the process, which involves a significant allocation of developer time and resources to acquire and ensure the quality of this specialized data.
Hi @tgraytn, I have never used them before, so I canât comment on how good the service is or how up-to-date the information is.
If theyâre literally pulling a fresh list every time they get one, then that cost of $500 per county sounds about right, as it can be a huge hassle to get the information. My biggest question would be, is it really current? Up-to-date data matters a lot, especially for a delinquent tax list.
I would also wonder what condition that data would be in because some counties will provide an absolute mess to sort through.
Thanks a lot Seth for your reply and feedback! I will plan on moving forward with them and will gladly report back to the group my experience.
I look forwarding to hearing more about your experience!
The topic and the link to the TaxLates site intrigued me as I am currently working some tax delinquent leads I got from a county in Texas. So, I signed up on the site and I pulled a few leads, using their pay-as-you-go option which costs $2.50 per lead. For the county I selected and the criteria I selected, the list only returned 17 leads. That surprised me as I thought the population for that criteria would be much larger (but I think that was my error â see below).
My criteria were basically:
- Property classification = Vacant
- Taxes due of $3k or more
- Number of tax years due 3 or more
- Min Lot Size 43,559 sq ft (i.e. 1 acre) or more
- Property Classification = VACANT
- Occupancy Type = Absentee Owner
- Remove Duplicate Owner = Yes
- Mailing Address Completeness = Complete
- Property Address Completeness = Complete (This is probably why I got so few leads - next time Iâll change it; I must have missed this in the criteria selection as we all know most vacant rural land doesnât have a street address
To validate the accuracy of the records received, I checked the 17 records I downloaded against the countyâs Tax website and also checked them against the countyâs Assessor website as well.
14 of the 17 records checked out materially correct (I say essentially accurate because the county tax office site updates the penalty and interest info monthly so I wouldnât expect the downloaded data tax due amount to be right on. But, ownership information, acres, years taxes due, APN #'s - all good.
3 of the 17 had leads pu8lled had inaccurate (old) owner info. One of the three properties was sold to a new owner in March 2024 and the other two had been sold to new a new owner in February 2024.
The latter two properties above did still have past due taxes so one might argue them as valid past-due-taxes property leads; but, if you were mailing to the owner & owner address pulled via the TaxLates lead (and not checking it against the county assessor site) - you would have mailed to the old owner.
The reason I know the data set I downloaded isnât anywhere near the population of past tax due vacant properties for the county is: I paid for / pulled / scrubbed a list bought directly from the county which had literally 100âs of records. But, I suspect had I got the property address criteria mentioned above correct in TaxLates (i.e. had not set it to âCompleteâ), I would have got a more like-to-like list.
I was sufficently impressed that I will probably reach out to the Company to get better clarity on how I should be using the criteria fields to get what I want in the way of target parcels and better understand how frequently and when the data for this county is refreshed by the company.
Given I had to pay several hundred dollars for the data file I got form the county and it wasnât in a particularly friend format and required a lot of manual effort to scrub out what wasnât vacant land and what was too small for my liking â I may actually purchase the standard membership (i.e. $997 / year for unlimited access to all leads for one county)
As a side note - when I searched REtipster for TaxLates, I ran across a profile for @taxlates / Jordan Hannes who Joined REtipster Nov 17, 2022 but doesnât show any activity since. When attempted to tag him in the note, I got this message: âYou mentioned @taxlates but they wonât be notified because they do not have access to this category. You will need to add them to a group that has access to this category.â
Anyway = my apologize for the rather verbose respnse. BUT I would be interested in any other feedback @tgraytn has. Feel free to message me Tom if you want to discuss my little sample compare effort more.
Karl
That message showed up because this conversation was started in the âLand Masters (Private Forum)â, which only members of the Land Investing Masterclass and other REtipster land courses can access. If @tgraytn wants me to, I could re-categorize this post so itâs publicly viewable by the whole forum. Let me know if you want me to do that, Tom!
Thanks for the clarification.
I did send him a private message last night as well. And, I found him on Facebook. (He is the President for the company.) Iâll likely call the company today to get clarfication on my questions.
Hi Karl! I appreciate your thorough feedback! I have not placed the order with Jordan yet due to us completely overhauling our website and hosting migration. We have literally just finished that project but being that itâs so close to Christmas and New Yearâs, I have decided to wait until the middle of January to move forward. I will definitely post an update here afterwards!
Thanks!
Tom
Seth,
Feel free to re-categorize this post!
Thanks!
Tom
Alright, just updated the categorization to make it public.
I spoke with Jordan - very nice and helpful gentleman. He gave me some tips on how to get a list more specific to what I was trying to pull. It cost me a couple hundred bucks for the list and generated some good leads. I coudl have gotten a list for teh county for about the same cost but, for that county, they wouldnât do any srubbing. I would have gotten all property types and had to seld scrub or pay a VA to parse out just the vacan land parcels. So, money well spent.
Great feedback Karl! I hope to have everything settled on my end very soon and will be placing my order with Jordan as well. I will share my experience as well.